So long Oslo
by William (@vambenepe on Twitter)This post is a farewell to Microsoft’s Oslo project. Not primarily because the name Oslo will be phased out at the next PDC as Doug Purdy reports. More importantly because Doug’s post puts Oslo so far on my back burner that I am unlikely to ever get back to it.
I have mostly been tracking Oslo (the modeling part of it, i.e. the “D” and then “M” stacks and associated tools) from the point of view of its applicability to IT management and Microsoft’s DSI effort. That made sense at first and I found some encouragements in this direction by (see the partial transcript of David Chappell’s video). But from the start there were also many signs of a very different vision for Oslo, as a software development tool with only a peripheral relationship to IT management.
As time went by it became clear that that vision was the real one and Doug’s announcement that Microsoft will “merge the Data Programmability team (EDM, EF, Astoria, XML, ADO.NET, and tools/designers) and the Oslo team (Quadrant, Repository, M) together” is the final confirmation.
M is still a very interesting piece of technology and I’d like to keep track of it, but it’s now too far removed from my focus area for me to justify paying much attention to it in the foreseeable future. Good luck to the team.
In the meantime, this brings back the question of what’s the current modeling story in the System Center team. SDM? SML? Some M-based replacement? Back to CIM? I am just asking because they had been a lot more public and proactive on this than other management vendors, but this has stopped abruptly.
[UPDATED 2009/8/28: Doug responded with enough of a teaser ("some things coming out of incubation in the management space") to give me a justification to keep at least an eye on Oslo. At the very least I'll keep monitoring his blog, waiting for this DSI link to emerge.]
August 28th, 2009 at 4:00 am
[...] So long Oslo"In the meantime, this brings back the question of what’s the current modeling story in the System Center team. SDM? SML? Some M-based replacement? Back to CIM? I am just asking because they had been a lot more public and proactive on this than other management vendors, but this has stopped abruptly." [...]
August 28th, 2009 at 11:02 am
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September 10th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
William,
Can you explain why you say “but it’s now too far removed from my focus area for me to justify paying much attention”.
Im not a Microsoft employee/spokesperson :-) but, I’ve always thought of Oslo as the piece of the pie that can be used to model systems/domains/services etc. The “model-aware” inftrastructure/service runtimes that make sense of these models have always been and will continue to remain the application of the oslo technologies in its current state. Atleast thats my interpretation of the roadmap.
What doesnt make sense to me by your post is why the synergy between the modelling technologies and its persistence affects the grand IT vision