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		<title>Ctrl-Alt-Del on ISO/IEC SC 34?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having been a alternate board member at WS-I, a committee co-chair at OASIS and at some point closely involved in W3C and DMTF working groups, I&#8217;ve had my share of dealing with standards organizations rules, bylaws and policies. All these organizations try to find a balance between openness/fairness on one end of the scale and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left">Having been a alternate board member at WS-I, a committee co-chair at OASIS and at some point closely involved in W3C and DMTF working groups, I&#8217;ve had my share of dealing with standards organizations rules, bylaws and policies. All these organizations try to find a balance between openness/fairness on one end of the scale and efficiency/consistency/vision on the other. But all those are industry standard organizations and I have been spared the need to deal with the internals of the even more complex and bureaucratic &#8220;de jure&#8221; organizations like ISO/IEC. Those who follow the OOXML/ODF debate remember the often-alleged, never-denied (that I have seen) and ultimately <a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070904053108577">unsuccesful </a>attempt to stack the deck in favor of Microsoft&#8217;s OOXML by convincing a large number of new countries to join the vote at the last minute. Andy Updegrove <a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20071016092352827">now describes</a> a probably unanticipated (let&#8217;s not be too cynical) consequence of this attempt: these new members don&#8217;t really understand or care about the work going on in SC 34 and their non-participation is preventing the group from making any progress due to the need to have a participation rate of at least 50% in the votes. And this is impacting many other specifications not related to OOXML (including, ironically, Schematron which is a dependency for the Microsoft-backed SML specification).</p>
<p align="left">If this was OASIS, these countries would loose their voting status after failing to participate (if only by voting &#8220;abstain&#8221;) in a certain number of votes. But I don&#8217;t know if such minimum participation rules exist as a safety feature in ISO.</p>
<p align="left">After the attempt to seize control, here is the halting of the work. Deletion is the logical next step in the ctrl-alt-del pattern that seems to be emerging&#8230;</p>
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