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	<title>Comments on: Generalizing the Cloud vs. SOA Governance debate</title>
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		<title>By: William Vambenepe &#8212; CMDB in the Cloud: not your father&#8217;s CMDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Vambenepe &#8212; CMDB in the Cloud: not your father&#8217;s CMDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If the topic of application-centric management in the age of Cloud is of interest to you (and it must be if you&#8217;ve read this long entry all the way to the end), You might also find this previous entry relevant: &#8220;Generalizing the Cloud vs. SOA Governance debate&#8220;. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If the topic of application-centric management in the age of Cloud is of interest to you (and it must be if you&#8217;ve read this long entry all the way to the end), You might also find this previous entry relevant: &#8220;Generalizing the Cloud vs. SOA Governance debate&#8220;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft, Oracle Differ on Cloud Visions &#124; Press Distribution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft, Oracle Differ on Cloud Visions &#124; Press Distribution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] William Vambenepe — Generalizing th&amp;#1077 Cloud vs. SOA Governance debate     submit_url = &quot;http://www.pressdistribution.net/7095/microsoft-oracle-differ-on-cloud-visions&quot;; [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] William Vambenepe — Generalizing th&amp;#1077 Cloud vs. SOA Governance debate     submit_url = &quot;<a href="http://www.pressdistribution.net/7095/microsoft-oracle-differ-on-cloud-visions&quot;" rel="nofollow">http://www.pressdistribution.net/7095/microsoft-oracle-differ-on-cloud-visions&quot;</a>; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William (@vambenepe on Twitter)</title>
		<link>http://stage.vambenepe.com/archives/1216#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>William (@vambenepe on Twitter)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Drs. Albert Spijkers:

MTOM/XOP is the kosher, standard, way to send binary content over SOAP. OVF is a wrapper around a virtual disk, and usually the whole package comes as a zip archive, therefore it&#039;s a candidate for being transported over MTOM/XOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Drs. Albert Spijkers:</p>
<p>MTOM/XOP is the kosher, standard, way to send binary content over SOAP. OVF is a wrapper around a virtual disk, and usually the whole package comes as a zip archive, therefore it&#8217;s a candidate for being transported over MTOM/XOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Drs. Albert Spijkers</title>
		<link>http://stage.vambenepe.com/archives/1216#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Drs. Albert Spijkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mr Vambenepe,

What is OVF over MTOM/XOP? I know a lot but not that! 

Friendly greetings,

Drs. Albert Spijkers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mr Vambenepe,</p>
<p>What is OVF over MTOM/XOP? I know a lot but not that! </p>
<p>Friendly greetings,</p>
<p>Drs. Albert Spijkers</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Cathcart</title>
		<link>http://stage.vambenepe.com/archives/1216#comment-739</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Cathcart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;IBM probably has Rational, WebSphere and Tivoli distinguished engineers locked into a room, discussing and over-engineering it at this very minute, etc.&quot;

spat coffee over my keyboard...

My view is the cloud versus SOA thing is more about people wanting to be seen to do the right thing. I wrote this just over a year ago http://cathcam.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/is-soa-dead/ to address this mob think pattern we so often see in the IT Industry. I genuinely thing it has as much to do with many IT Guys social skills as any technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;IBM probably has Rational, WebSphere and Tivoli distinguished engineers locked into a room, discussing and over-engineering it at this very minute, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>spat coffee over my keyboard&#8230;</p>
<p>My view is the cloud versus SOA thing is more about people wanting to be seen to do the right thing. I wrote this just over a year ago <a href="http://cathcam.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/is-soa-dead/" rel="nofollow">http://cathcam.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/is-soa-dead/</a> to address this mob think pattern we so often see in the IT Industry. I genuinely thing it has as much to do with many IT Guys social skills as any technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://stage.vambenepe.com/archives/1216#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;There is a lot at stake, and it would be nice if this was driven (industry-wide or at least within each of the contenders) by a clear understanding of what we are aiming for rather than a race to cobble together partial solutions based on existing control points and products (e.g. the hypervisor-centric party).&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Death panels!  Pre-Existing Conditions!  Socialism!   Big Pharma!  Wait, wrong debate...  Though now I&#039;m thinking through bad jokes about the debate between the &quot;Public Cloud Option&quot; and the &quot;Private Cloud Status Quo&quot;.

The main challenge, I think, is that despite the enormous hype out there, we really haven&#039;t seen a lot of pressure from the bottom or the top of IT to make the process or cultural changes to drive such drastic changes in service transition &amp; service operations (to use the ITIL terms).   Most middle-IT managers have barely heard about cloud computing, or think it&#039;s a sick joke.    Though, if the economy remains to suck for another year or two, then this change might be forced....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;There is a lot at stake, and it would be nice if this was driven (industry-wide or at least within each of the contenders) by a clear understanding of what we are aiming for rather than a race to cobble together partial solutions based on existing control points and products (e.g. the hypervisor-centric party).&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Death panels!  Pre-Existing Conditions!  Socialism!   Big Pharma!  Wait, wrong debate&#8230;  Though now I&#8217;m thinking through bad jokes about the debate between the &#8220;Public Cloud Option&#8221; and the &#8220;Private Cloud Status Quo&#8221;.</p>
<p>The main challenge, I think, is that despite the enormous hype out there, we really haven&#8217;t seen a lot of pressure from the bottom or the top of IT to make the process or cultural changes to drive such drastic changes in service transition &amp; service operations (to use the ITIL terms).   Most middle-IT managers have barely heard about cloud computing, or think it&#8217;s a sick joke.    Though, if the economy remains to suck for another year or two, then this change might be forced&#8230;.</p>
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